The Living Proof Podcast
Real people. Real struggles. Real success.
Living Proof is where transformation stories come to life. Hosted by Daeron Myers, this podcast features raw, unfiltered conversations with entrepreneurs, entertainers, and everyday people who turned their setbacks into comebacks. No fluff. No scripts. Just proof that where you start doesn't determine where you finish.
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The Living Proof Podcast
Devon Dorsey x Daeron Myers | LIVING PROOF PODCAST
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Two brothers. Same broken home. Same absent parents. Same streets.
One became a firefighter who held dying children in his arms. The other built a million-dollar empire from nothing. And now for the first time on camera they're sitting across from each other telling the whole story.
Daeron Myers brings his brother Coach Dev to the Living Proof Podcast, and what unfolds is one of the rawest, most unfiltered conversations you'll ever watch. From being split up as kids, raised by aunts and grandmothers who both died of cancer, to running with fiends, chasing manhood in all the wrong places, and finally finding the path that changed everything.
This isn't a success story. This is the road BEHIND the success story.
🎙️ What they get into:
Growing up divided same blood, different households, different pain
How Coach Dev went from drugs and the streets to becoming a licensed firefighter
The 3AM phone call when Daeron was stabbed and Dev woke up with pain on the same side
The moment on a yacht in Miami that broke every limited belief Dev had
Why followers don't equal dollars and what actually builds wealth
What real manhood looks like when nobody showed you the example
How Freedom University helps people get funded $50-100K at 0% interest to start their businesses
Why Dev credits ONE moment in Atlanta as the thing that changed his entire life
If you've ever watched somebody else win and wondered if it was even possible for YOU this episode is the answer.
📲 Find Coach Dev: @iamcoachdev on TikTok, Instagram & Facebook
🎓 Free credit masterclass every Thursday — tap in at Freedom University
My very first uh child dying. He was two years old. It's about three o'clock in the morning. We get a call. The mother, I think she was sleeping with the child, rolled over on her child. Roll back over, child wasn't breathing. We get there, we start trying to perform a CPR on the child. I'm actually in the fire truck. Now this is when things are really bad because I'm actually in the fire truck. When we're in the fire truck, we only wait for the medics to pull up. Put the child or the person into the back of the medic, and then one of us we jumped in the medic and we ride to the hospital with the medic. But when the calls are so bad, we'll actually put the person in the fire engine with us and we'll take them to the hospital. In the house, you know, throughout the day, just running around. You don't know what manhood is. You're trying to find yourself in these moments. But all you have are Jays, fiends, or women, so you're not really having the best example of what a man even is. And I realized that the things that we think are we associated with men, macho type of personality, masculinity, stuff like that, was what we thought manhood was, and that's what we were chasing as kids in the hood, and that's why we were always fighting, or if somebody stepped on your shoes, or you know, we gotta fight, we gotta go outside, and stuff like that. But in all reality, we were just a bunch of kids that just didn't have any emotional intelligence. And I think that we exuded our uh manhood or masculinity through aggression. That's just what it ended up being.
SPEAKER_00Y'all family, what's happening, man? Listen, welcome to the Living Proof Podcast, hosted by yours truly. You know what's going on, you know what time it is, man. Listen, we are bringing guests who are living proof that they overcame something, that they did something. And today, I got a special guest in the building. I'm talking about somebody from the bloodline, somebody who came from the same CUDA cat. You know what I mean? So listen, not only am I living proof and y'all see my journey, but I think y'all gonna see somebody else who is part of the same bloodline and hear his story, hear his side of being not only a family member, but I got my brother today. Hey, Coach Dad, what's happening? How you feeling, man?
SPEAKER_03Hey, man, let's get it, let's go. Hey, this is major, baby. I'm loving it. I'm loving it. The set is looking good, environment energy is lovely, man. Let's go.
SPEAKER_00How you feeling, man? Like, listen, we're gonna start it off right. Like, how you feeling from one to ten? Everything that's been transpiring over your life, like becoming, you know, growing up in poverty, becoming, you know, going to job court, becoming a firefighter, and now saying, you know what, I'm betting on myself. I'm about to become an entrepreneur. And listen, I'm gonna be the second millionaire in my family. Talk to me, man. How you feeling? One through ten.
SPEAKER_03Hey, listen, first off, it's it's a 10, man. Look, any day above ground is always a 10, man. We gotta definitely count our blessings and uh show a lot more gratitude. So listen, I'm here, I'm living proof, I'm on set with my brother. This is major. Um, I'm a 10, man, 10 out of 10. Always.
SPEAKER_00That's what's up. I'm loving it, man. Real quick, like, people know that we brothers, but I don't think they really understand the full story of what we've been through, right? Right. Like, this is why for me, like, I know everybody wants me to shoot the documentary, but I said, you know what? I'm about to write the book first because I'm telling you, you're not broken, you're just fighting the wrong battle. You know what I mean? So take me back real quick, the like, you know, we were split at a young age. You know, I was raised, well, I'm glad as you was raised with grandma. Right. Like, how was that growing up? You know, knowing that, hey, listen, I got a brother, but he don't live on the same side. I got, you know, I got a mother, but she's not around. Like, we not under the same roof. How was that growing up?
SPEAKER_03Man, um, first off, man, I I'm lost for words, man, because I I I didn't know when we started today which direction this was gonna go in, you know. And um, I was a little nervous when we started. Being that my brother's interviewing me in so many different ways that we can go. Um, but to answer your question, I got to thank you for a lot of this, man, because honestly, you showed me it was possible. And I tell people this all the time. Um, you showing me that it was possible was was all that I need. I got a brother who's a millionaire, right? Most people that would be in my my shoes, they would be taking advantage of it. They would be calling this nigga every other week, yo. I need 5k.
SPEAKER_00For real.
SPEAKER_03You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00Don't do that. Please don't do that.
SPEAKER_03But for me, you know, for me, when he showed me that it was real, when he showed me it was possible, when he did it, that's all I needed, man. Because I said, listen, me and this man came out the same courtie. If he can do it, then I can do it. It's possible, and that's all I needed. And um, I put my head down, I got to work. You know, I did what you told me to do, and the rest has been history.
SPEAKER_00That's what's up, man. Let's let's rewind it for a second because I don't think people understand that you were raised by grandma, I was raised by aunt, but it's crazy that they both passed away from cancer. Like, how did that feel? Like, not losing the number one lady in your life, but also losing the number two lady in your life. Like a lot of people would have gone to drugs, right? So for me, I was just like, I became numb in some emotions, and and this is why I can't really get deep with people. But then it also fueled me to say, hey, listen, I gotta keep going. Like I always wanted to see, I always wanted them to see me become something, right? So I know they still watching down, they're not physically here. But let me know how did that, you know, how did that start track in your life, like losing both of them from the cancer?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, man, I um that's that's that's a tough one. Like you said, I lost my leading lady, my grandmother, you know, she raised me. If you guys don't know, me and my brother, we were divided, you know, as as kids. Um my Aunt Gladys, like you said, raised him. My grandmother ended up taking me into custody and and raising me. Um and she eventually passed away from cancer, like you said, and you know, my Aunt Gladys eventually ended up passing away from cancer too. But the way that it made me feel, you mentioned something. You said some people end up turning to drugs and different outlets. And to be completely honest, a lot of y'all don't know. You know, this is my first time even sharing this on camera, but I was one of those people. You know, I ended up smoking a bunch of weed, getting hooked up onto perks, you know, anything that I could do to cope and to feel numb. Um, and I went down that, I went down that road, man. And um I think mentally that shit beat me up so bad. You know, grandma was my first mother. And Gladys was the first woman I ever shared my dreams with. And Gladys was the first woman I looked in the eyes and told, look, I'ma do this, I'm gonna do this with my life, I'm gonna go out here and I'm gonna do that with my life. Um, so to lose the first person that you ever shared your dreams with, and then to live it out, I mean, you know, you know more than anybody. Um, because you you're living proof. For sure, for sure. You're living proof, no pun intended. But um, it's difficult because it's like, damn, these were the people that I wanted to do it for, these were the people that I wanted to be here to see it, and they're not here. And I deal with that in a lot of different ways on my own accord, man. Like, I know better than an Asgard why, but it's just like, damn, wow, like just one of them, glad us could have been here, somebody, you know, to see it. But then I honestly I instantly go to gratitude because it's easy for us to say, damn, I wish, you know, this person was here to see it, that person was here to see it. But the reality is we're in a better position than some people because our mother is here to see it. Our father is here to see it. And I learned to pivot my energy to that and be grateful for that and just do as much as I possibly can while my mother and my father still here so that I can make them proud and that they can see it while they're here.
SPEAKER_00For sure, for sure. Like, I don't know, I'll be tripping sometimes because I'll be on the plane, like, dang, like, Laz will be enjoying this, or I'm on a vacation, like, dang, like, why? You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, yes, it's it's crazy that, yeah, our father is still here and uh, you know, our mother's still here, but you know, I you know that that those ladies were something special, you know what I mean? Like for real, like, you know, my we be trying to get him on the same page, he'd be like, I don't understand why you don't want to enjoy this type of life. Right, you know what I mean? You like you choose to be in the ghetto, like nah, we in the suburbs, we we we putting our feet in the sand, we putting our feet in the ocean, like what's up with you, you know what I mean? And and knowing like I'm glass would be on it like white on rice. Like, listen, where you going, right? Man, so it's crazy, like, and even just talking about it now, like, you know, growing up with our fathers, like we didn't have our fathers at an early age. You know what I mean? And I watched some of your previous interviews, and you said, I I, you know, I was searching for manhood at a young age. And then you jumped into the streets. Like, talk about that for a second. Like, what was you going through? Because it's a lot of young people out here who don't have their fathers, who thinking about, like, man, I'm in the streets and I'm struggling with manhood. I'm looking at other people and they not, they not pouring into me the right way. So talk to me a little bit about that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think um all of us who come from environments, like we come from are products of that. Um, in our reality, I don't know if the young man that's going through it in real life time right now is aware of it or not, because I'm not sure that I was aware of it when I was going through it during that time. But we are searching for manhood. The reality is we're coming up in households where me and you, your aunt raised you, our aunt raised you, our grandmother raised me. So, women, we we're only seeing women, right? And then if we're being raised by nothing but women, what are we always experiencing? High emotion. That's a fact. High emotion. So you never really learn emotional intelligence when you're coming up in that type of environment. And you know our environment was crazy, our environment was fucked up. My grandmother, she's going to church every single day of the week. My Aunt Gladys, she's getting high. My Aunt Muffy, she's getting high, so it's nothing but Jays. If y'all don't know what Jays are, fiends, in the house, you know, throughout the day, just running around. You don't know what manhood is. You're trying to find yourself in in these moments. But all you have are Jays, fiends, or women. So you're not really having the best example of what a man even is. And I realized that the things that we think are we associate with men, macho type of personality, masculinity, stuff like that, was what we thought manhood was, and that's what we were chasing as kids in the hood, and that's why we were always fighting, or if somebody stepped on your shoes, yo, you know, we gotta fight, we gotta go outside, and stuff like that. But in all reality, we were just a bunch of kids that just didn't have any emotional intelligence. And I think that we exuded our uh manhood or masculinity through aggression, and that's just gonna end you up in in jail or hurting somebody or hurting yourself, you know what I mean? It would they say it's only two ways it's gonna go, right? Jail or a casket. And I think that um a lot of us in the hood we're chasing what masculinity is because we don't really have those examples. When in all reality, it's not none of that. It's not being tough, it's not fighting a person because they step on your shoe, it's not it's it's that's not what it is. It's the complete opposite. It's the complete opposite. Um, in fact, being a man is taking care of your responsibilities, it's showing up, it's showing up for people when you ain't even got it in you to show up for yourself on days, you know, it's it's saying yes when you know you you don't have it to say yes, but you gotta go ahead and find a way. Like, that's what manhood is about. It's really about character. It was never about who was the toughest guy. And I think that's what we got it fucked up at, and that's why the jails are filled with a bunch of young kids now.
SPEAKER_00That's a fact. Like, just thinking about it, like growing up, it's like you never knew what a man was. Like, you know what I mean? Watching the watching our aunts. I remember like if people understand what like fiends and Jays is now, like geek, like they would have certain geeks, you know, like they would have certain geeks. Like, I remember Aunt Gladys, she be digging in the carpet, right? And thinking it's funny. You know what I'm saying? Though, you know, rest in peace, Jenny babe. She would say, Oh my god, I'm in a coma and go hide in the closet, right? So, you know what I'm saying, and just not knowing, like we was raised by a lot of females, you know what I mean, who did a lot of drugs. It was just chaotic and crazy. So yeah, we didn't know how to control our emotions. We always getting in the fight. And the real strength, you know, as we get older and wiser, is saying, you know what? Hey, yo, it's not even about me. You know what I mean? Like, like you don't you don't really wanna you don't really wanna fight me. You don't really wanna, it's something internally inside yourself or inside your household or something that you battling with. So now, you know, fixing that, right? Unlearning and relearn, so now you can walk through and say, hey, King, pick your head up, bro. Like, I I don't got nothing to harm me. Like, yo, we can have a disagreement and not fight, right? Like, it used to be times where people would disagree with you and you'd be like, man, just throw them up. You know what I'm saying? Like, because we didn't know how to handle that or see a, you know, see a real man say, you know what, strength is walking away. Exactly. Strength is right, your power is showing that you can control yourself.
SPEAKER_03Exactly.
SPEAKER_00That weakness of letting you go and and getting out of control or picking up a gun and shooting somebody, that's weak.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00That's that's that's not real man time. Yep. Real man time is say, hey, I know you got something wrong with you today, but I'm your brother and I love you because you're another man. Exactly. Right? I see you tomorrow. Like, oh, we can talk about it when you calm down emotions. You know what I'm saying? So jumping into that, it's crazy where we came from, an environment we came from. And then you become a firefighter, helping to saving people. Like tearing the neighborhood down, burn it. Like, I don't even, people don't even realize, like, bro, when we were younger, we lit a dumpster on fire, like a dumpster on fire that caught wildfire. Like, and now you said, I'ma grow up and be a firefighter. What made you say a firefighter, bro?
SPEAKER_03Yo, that's crazy. Somebody, my man six, shout out my man six, man. He was saying that to me the other day. He was like, yo, you live one of the most extreme lives of anybody that I ever known. He said, Yo, let me tell y'all, let me let me give y'all some insight, man. Like, I remember Mr. Harvey. You know Mr. Harvey. Mr. Harvey was um our childhood friend's dad. Um, Mr. Harvey ended up getting pancreatic cancer, going to the hospital, and he ended up dying. But before he died, I remember we all came to the hospital, the whole neighborhood, we came to the hospital, and um, I was in paramedic school at the time. And this was one of the wildest moments ever. But I'm in the hospital, and my man six, I remember the surgeon saying, All right, listen, everybody has to get out of the room because I have to perform the surgery um on Mr. Harvey. And a couple of my friends were bragging about me. They were like, Yeah, well, Dev, he's a medic, he's a medic, he's a medic, like, can he help? And I was like, Yeah, well, I'm actually in medic school. Like, I would like to like sit in on this. And um, I sit in on it. She helped me, like, gave me the needle, like, let me like be a part of the actual surgery. And five minutes later, I walked out, my phone, my phone rings, and I'm telling Six, I'm like, yo, we gotta go hit a cell. So we jump in the car. I got an ounce full of crack stuffed in my boxes and my ethicas, and we riding out to go hit a cell. He says, Yo, this is you the craziest nigga I know. How do you go from in the room? Yeah, how do you go from in a room with surgeons performing surgery on your friend's dead to five minutes later getting the car, jumping in the car and going out serving a J, like, yo, your life is so extreme. Like, nigga, what how?
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_03I don't even have an answer for it. I never really realized how extreme it was. All I can say is this like, we are executors in my family, right? Me and my brother, we executors. Like, we lock in on something, we want it, we go get it. And all I can say is my first aspiration was I wanted to be the biggest drug dealer in the in the neighborhood. I accomplished it. My second aspiration was I wanted to become an EMT firefighter. I don't know where that came from, somewhere in job core. I know you asked me about that, so we'll probably talk about that at some point in time. And everything just kind of meshed. Like it just, I just ended up being this person with just a lot of different talents that were just so far broad of like, yo, like nigga, you trap of the year, but now you're in medic school, like, yo, this is crazy, right?
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_03So I don't know. I I never really realized how crazy it was until moments like this when people, you know, bring it up, like, yo, how this is extreme. All I can say is we chase our dreams and we accomplish them, you know. And that that was that was just that. That was the next thing for me was becoming a firefighter, and we accomplished it. I still had some of that residue of the streets of me. I had to get that off, you know. But yeah, it's crazy, man.
SPEAKER_00It's crazy. Yeah, like people don't understand. I think it comes from just always happening to figure it out. There was nobody there to really help us figure it out. So we we move here, we move here, we move there. And now we grown. And I think, you know, people that you know we may be dating or become in a partnership with, they don't really understand that. You know what I mean? They like, yo, how you go from here to here? Like, you know, used to from medic to hitting a sale, like yo, I used to work at the bank, closing deals, shaking hands, right? To then go on a serve, you know what I mean, a half a brick. Like it. Straight up. But it was no thought. Like, I had to think about it. It was just like, I gotta get it by any means necessary. That kicked in, you know what I mean? And it's crazy because it's like, how you become a firefighter out of all things? And and we used to tear the neighborhood up, man, burn it on fire, sell drugs, and now you become to save lives. Like, man, you talk about being a firefighter. I know you've seen some things. Just like, what is the craziest thing that you've seen? Like pulling up to a scene that can look crazy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, everybody always asks me, like, what was the craziest shit that you ever seen as a firefighter? I think we became so immune to like some wild shit that it's not even about like the it's not about like the wild shit that like really plays on your on your on your mental. It's more so when you see kids that's involved. Like the worst calls, and I think when people are asking, like, what's the craziest shit that you've seen? I think what they're really asking is like, what's the worst call that you've been on? Um, and for me, the worst calls that I've ever been on were 100% kids. Um, my very first, my very first uh child dying. He was two years old. It's about three o'clock in the morning. We get a call, the mother, I think she was sleeping with the child, rolled over on her child, rolled back over, child wasn't breathing. We get there, we start trying to perform uh CPR on the child. Now I'm actually in the fire truck. Now, this is when things are really bad because I'm actually in the fire truck. When we're in the fire truck, we normally wait for the medics to pull up, put the the child or the person into the back of the medic, and then one of us will jump in the medic and we'll ride to the hospital with the medic. But when the calls are so bad, we'll actually put the person in the fire engine with us and we'll take them to the hospital ourselves. That call was so bad, I remember us going back and forth because it still bothers me. I had to go through like therapy and all of this shit for this. Um, but we realized he wasn't gonna make it if we waited. He wasn't gonna make it. So we ping-ponged about are we gonna take them ourselves or are we gonna wait for the medic. When we finally decided we won't take them ourselves, the medic poured up. We ended up placing them into the medic, you know, and unfortunately the child passed away. Um I'm shaking right now, even like reliving it. Um, because that wasn't my first one. Well, that was my first one, but it wasn't my last one. And you never really know how much this shit like plays on you until you go to sleep and you waking up with cold sweats. You know what I mean? You're waking up crying because a child is gone and you feel like, damn, what could I have done more? It wasn't my training, was it, was it, did I not do something right? You know, was it my protocol? What was it? And those calls tend to play on you the most. Um, those are the hardest cars. The craziest shit I've ever seen was a woman drove her car into the into the harbor, and we had to jump into the harbor and go get her out of there. That was probably the craziest. And that was like my first week on the job.
SPEAKER_00That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I'm gonna give you. Hey, I'm gonna send y'all some videos of that one. You gotta put that one in here. That was crazy. We on the boat and everything. Like, gotta jump in the nasty ass harbor for this woman.
SPEAKER_00Man, that's crazy because you look at it and you gotta be. So so many people will pray for that position because not only like is it freedom, you talk about eight days a month, uh, six-figure salary. You think it don't get no sweeter than that, but they don't realize that they're paying you to go home and get rid of those barriers, right? Like, yo, I gotta go home and I gotta love somebody. I gotta love my woman. Oh, I gotta, if if you have kids, but I just seen a kid pass away right in my arms. You know what I'm saying? Like that that's crazy. So I just want people to be careful for what they wish for because like you you may get it, right? Like, and you don't know what that comes with. You know what I mean? Like me battling and being a person that I am, like, yes, I always wanted to be on top, always wanted to be a millionaire, but now it's like my family, all they do is hand me their problems. You know what I'm saying? Nobody ever literally just check on me. It's like, oh, I got a problem with this, this car broke down, or I'm late on this, I'm late on this, and I gotta hear it all the time. So, like, be understanding that, like, yo, it's a yin and a yang to everything. Like, you gotta be willing to take it and say, hey, listen, it's good, yeah, the bank account good, but now my family looking at me like an ATM. Or the money is good, I'm only working eight days, but I gotta deal with crime scenes and and and jump in the harbor to save people and seeing people die in front of me. Like, what made you say, all right, cool, I'm I'm I'm doing this, I had to go to therapy for this, but yo, now I gotta pivot. Like, I wanna be, I wanna be on my own, I wanna start something, I wanna build something. I remember you saying, like, you funded yourself $75,000. Like, what was that like? And what made you say, listen, I gotta help other people start doing this?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, uh, that was a lot. Um, the pivot started with you. I remember, I remember this shit like yesterday. So it's crazy because me and my brother, we were divided as like kids, but we always we were always best friends. All we wanted to do was just be with each other in the same household. And I remember when he got stabbed, I don't know if he told you told y'all about the story or not yet. Um It gotta come out. It gotta come out. But um I remember being woken up in the middle of the night. I was laid up with Ye, my ex at the time, and I woke up in the middle of the night and I was like, yo, my side, my side. She was like, What's going on? I was like, I don't know. I got sharp pain in my side. This is crazy, man. A couple of minutes later, my brother calls me. I'm getting a call from my brother. It's like three in the morning. All he says is, Dev, I love you. And then the phone goes, it goes out. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Now, mind you, now listen, put this in contact. I just jumped out of bed at 3 o'clock in the morning screaming about my side is aching. I don't know why. And then my brother calls me, and all I hear is, all I hear is an ambulance. I hear sirens. This nigga's in the back of a fucking medic bleeding out, and I don't know. The same side that I'm waking up in pain on. And his words to me was, Dev, I love you. And then he fainted, he passed out. Never didn't know what the fuck was going on. And then a couple of minutes later, I'm getting a phone call from my family member that, yo, your brother was just stabbed. We gotta go to shock trauma. When you hear anything about shock trauma in Baltimore, it's the worst case fucking scenario. Shock trauma is the number one trauma center in the United States, right? Like they bring military people to come here and train. If you're going to shock trauma, it's fucked up. It's life and death. So when they told me, yo, your brother's going to shock trauma, immediately, broke, broke the fuck down. Immediately, I'm thinking, yo, I just lost my brother. I just lost my fucking brother. Like, what am I going to do? Right? Saying all of that to say we've always had this connection that down to kids, I used to be in karate and I used to be in karate for six, seven years. My brother played football. I quit karate to go play football to be with this nigga, right? Like everything was always to try to be with him and be closer to him. I moved from here to New York to be closer to him. You know what I mean? We always just wanted brotherhood, companionship, and all of that. So I'm saying that to say this. Now I'm not a fucking millionaire, right? I don't know what it feels like to have the family calling, because you said a lot of a lot of different things. I'm trying to get to all of it, but I don't know what it feels like to go through what you're going through when you got the family depending on you as a savior. I was just on a on a on a on a regular salary, right? So people were happy in the family of what I was doing and was proud of me, but it was nowhere near the type of pressure that you're getting that you're looked at as a savior. Now I'm saying all of that to say I was always inspired by you, whether you knew it or not. Like for me to stop doing karate, something that I loved, to play football was just to be closer to you, to have something that we could have. So when I seen you accomplished everything that I seen you do, I knew when you made your first million dollars because I remember telling Trish, and I'm like, listen, they he flying us all out and all that. I said, yo, I think this nigga just made his first million dollars. She said, Why you said that? I said, Because I got money. Like I got a couple dollars. And I know what I can do. This nigga's doing easily without thinking about it. I watched him spend $50,000 on watches like it was nothing without blinking. Now, mind you, I might go spend $50,000, but I can't do it without blinking. You feel me? So I said, yo, this nigga just hit his first million dollars. And then he flies us down all to Miami, buys a big mansion, and all of that. I'm getting to answer your question, but they need to know. And I get down there and I see my brother at the edge of this boat and he's by himself. And I can't see nothing but just the back. But something's telling me he's having a pride moment. He's crying right now, he's having tears of joy. You need to go over there and celebrate this moment with your brother. Right? So it's not, it's we he got a whole family out here, y'all. He got our entire family on this boat. But I see him. I see him. I we always we always been connected. I knew what the fuck was going on before I knew what was going on. And I walk over there, man. And before he even confirmed it or anything, we never had a conversation about nothing. I just hugged him and gave him the biggest hug. And I said, nigga, you did it. I'm fucking proud of you. I'm fucking proud of you. I knew it. So saying all of that to say, like, just watching you just do greatness my entire life from football, you broke fucking high school records in Newburgh, our first year up there. I always watched you do great shit, and you my best friend. And fuck it, I want to do it too.
SPEAKER_00Nah, I feel like that's it.
SPEAKER_03And that's been my mindset. So when I seen you do this, it was like, man, fuck it. My brother did it. He did it. Like, I can do it too. I can do it too. And to answer your question, I know that was a long, you know, wrap-up, but it was because I seen that you did it, and I always been inspired by you, and I knew that if you could do it, I could do it too. And it was worth just jumping in, listening to you, and walking away from all of the other shit that I I no longer wanted to chase, you know, my dreams because I seen you do it. But I'm sorry for the for the long-winded answer, y'all.
SPEAKER_00Nah, that's all good. It's just like people don't understand. It's like, I was one of those people that just, and and I need I need everybody to understand this because a lot of people they shy away from the task. It's like, no, I just failed and I got right back in line for success. I failed again, I got right back in line for success. Hey, listen, I've hey coach said I ran the wrong route. I got back in line and practiced it and just made sure I was always in the line for success instead of saying, you know what, this ain't for me. So by you breaking that down and saying that I always inspired you, that means a lot. Right? If you my brother, because a lot of older brothers, they may be envious and that's my lower brother, man. I should be doing this. I should be having this, I should be the one taking our family down, you know, having mansions and getting on the yacht. So that that that definitely means a lot, man. And I I want to say I respect you for, you know, just following the lead because I wanted to put you in the environment. Like I knew for a fact that people was down in Atlanta. This was our first time we seen black people. And I'm talking about like I can only I I can only imagine what you see, but you got to see me be able to, you know, elevate in life. But the first time I got in a room, and somebody said, Yo, I made a million dollars in a day. What?
SPEAKER_02Right, right.
SPEAKER_00Like what that, like, nah, bruh, ain't no way. Right. A hundred thousand dollars in a day. Like, so now people are talking on a higher level. Like, what was that transition like? Watching me saying, dang, my brother doing it. You know, he now he living easily. Now he got, you know, presidential Rolexes, he's living life, he got multiple houses, his family good, like his kids in private school, to now saying, yo, Dev, like, yo, I'm put you on this fight the first class. What made you say, matter of fact, let me rewind it. What made you not rebel and say, nah, man, I'm good? Because a lot of people get complacent where they at. Nah, yo. Let me show you what I seen. What made you say, listen, I'm coming, like, I got, I gotta come see it. And then second part, what made you, like, when you start hearing it and seeing other people, like, hold on, this black monk driving lamb, but what the like what how'd that make you feel?
SPEAKER_03Shit. Well, first off, let me let me ask you a question, because I can't skip over that. Hold up. First off, did you always have that? So, like, like I know as your brother watching you, like you always made me proud as shit. Like, always. But like, you the person that's that's that's that's experiencing it. Like, did you always know, like, you was destined for this greatness? Did you always know like you were gonna figure it out one way? Did you always know?
SPEAKER_00I always knew you always had that feeling.
SPEAKER_03You ain't know what it was.
SPEAKER_00Hey, listen, I swear, like, I never thought I was better than people, but I always knew I was different, right? You know what I'm saying? Like, I always knew it's something to listen. Y'all don't think like me, y'all don't work like me, y'all, like y'all not built like me. Like, God got this favor on me for real. Like, I always knew I just had to figure out my lane, and I thought it was gonna be, you know, and rest in peace, Chaz, man. I thought it was gonna be through music. You know what I mean? Um, it's crazy that we're talking about this. Diddy was my idol, but that's that's another story for another topic. But I but I wanted to be like Diddy, I wanted to have like music. I thought that was gonna be my lane. Like, all right, cool. I got Chaz, you know what I mean? Like, I'm gonna get a couple artists and we're gonna rock out that way. But I always knew, like, man, it's something different. I don't know what is is, but but God, I'm happy that you placed it in me. But this is how I felt about myself. And I tackled on a world I knew for a fact it was nothing I couldn't conquer. It was nothing I couldn't do. I just had to wait, I just had to put enough work in and let time catch up. That was it.
SPEAKER_03What was the earliest age that you remember having that dog on you or feeling like I'm gonna be all right no matter what? Like, I'm gonna figure this shit out.
SPEAKER_00Oh, probably like 11.
SPEAKER_0311?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Like 11. Like I remember like probably around when we was uh with the Columbia, was that Ravens or Bulldogs? I can't even remember. But like Coach Taylor and Coach Bernie, you know what I mean? Like playing and that was like the first time I was around a lot of greatness. Like we had a lot of players on that team that went to the NFL, and it was like, hold on, bro, like nah, like I'm great. Like I can compete at a high level. That was the first time it hit me, like, nah, they wrong, you can compete out here in anything that you do. That was probably the first time. And shout out to Coach Taylor and Coach Bernie because they, you know, they embraced us, they showed us different stuff, kids from the hood. They used to come pick us up and and take us to restaurants, and they lived in the suburbs, and that was like for real, that was like the first time that it was like, okay, cool. This, this, this, this little this life is a little good. They live a little good over here. And we playing football, and I could compete at a high level. So that was the first.
SPEAKER_03And I remember seeing you turn into that. First off, shout out Coach Bernie and Coach T. I hope y'all still living. Um, but I remember seeing you turn into that figure for our kids. Like, I remember Coach telling them putting us in the back of their big truck, yeah, yeah. Taking us out River Hill.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_03Yep, and then seeing it all in full circle, like, damn, now that's my brother with the fucking big truck Cadillac, all the kids, taking them like yo. Now, so you were that same example that was implanted in us for some of these kids. So we don't know how that story is gonna turn out in these next 10 years.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's a fact. Right. I mean, I just like you know, you pay it for it. Like, I think you can only grow to what you're exposed to. So I was exposed to us, so it's like, nah, like we're gonna have fun, we're gonna create an experience when we was out there coaching on the football field. Right. And if people don't know, we we've been whipping behind on that turf for a lot of years. So y'all can go to the history books. I never lost a game in Maryland. All right, now, but but that was the first time, like, you know, just pouring back into people, like they run you here now. Like, it's not about, you know what I mean, you changing your character, it's about you, you know, paying it forward. You know, without them, like we you gotta think. Like, if we never seen that side, what would we be? Like, what would we be? Where would we be?
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Like, for real. Right. You seen a man, and and shout out to Coach, you seen a man take in kids. Like, nah, like I'm good, and I could just I got three kids myself, but now I'm gonna take in these other kids because they I know they less fortunate. Now they run you at this level, it would be crazy for me not to do that.
SPEAKER_03Facts.
SPEAKER_00Somebody did it for me. I know what that did for me. Facts. You know what I'm saying? Facts. For sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_03So what what was it like? When did you know you were rich? What was what was the dollar amount when you was like, man, I'm I'm I'm up showing them out of it. When did you know? What was the number?
SPEAKER_00Man, what was the I don't even know the number. It was just like, yo, it it became so I became so valuable that the money just started rolling in. Like it was just like every day, it was deposits. It was like, you know what I mean? It was like, all right, cool. I found my niche, I'm growing my company, it's growing at a rapid scale. People don't even know that my company got out in front of me. Like it grew before I even had the staff. Anything. That thing, like I was chasing behind the company for a while. Wow. You know what I mean? The carrier business academy where we teach people how to start a carrier business. I was teaching people, I was I was chasing behind that company. I mean, we was doing, you know, $300,000 a month, and it was just me and the company.
SPEAKER_03That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00So I ain't had no customer service team, I ain't had no COO, I ain't had no sales team, I ain't had nothing. And I was doing everything, but I think around like a quarter million dollars a month, that's when I knew, like, yo, it's up.
SPEAKER_03A quarter in a month.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Like, that's that's when you knew, like, yo, you can buy the car you want. Right, right. Like, yo, you can you can start looking at million dollar homes.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Like at first, it was like, dang, bro, it's a million dollar. God dang this house cost a grip. But now once you start getting it, man, let me get that. Let me get them floors, right? Let me get that with the selling, let me get the biggest lot. Right, you know, I paid a premium, so it's like, yeah, like $250,000 a month was was the one. But you know what I mean? Like, we always sparring. Like, that's why I put you in an environment in Atlanta, because it's like at $250,000 a month. I heard a nick, I heard a mug say, listen, bro, that's that's cool. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00That's cool. Right. So it was like, hold on, like, you gotta put yourself in an environment to keep going. Cause if I stayed around the way, $250,000 a month, oh man, you good. You nah, bro. Like, I'm I'm not. There's bigger things that you need to be doing. There's bigger, you know, goals that you can reach. So I'm I'm just happy to bring it back full circle to you and and and and and go and re-ask you that question. Like, how did it feel to be in that environment? Because now you got to see, like, now I'm like every anybody can talk about it on the internet. Oh, yeah, I do this, I can help you make this, I can help you make this. But now when you're around that excellence, you partying with people, you connecting with people, you having real conversations, you inside those masterminds, how did that feel? You know, coming from because you might have because let's be honest, like the hood numbers, I made six figures. I'm I'm rich. I'm rich. I'm not naked. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but it's like, bro, I done made I done made uh six figures in a day. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, you think you make it in a year. No, I learned how to make it in a day. Crazy, you know what I'm saying? So, how did it feel like for you to get around that coming from the everyday working environment and still living in the hood, right? And having friends that just ain't understand.
SPEAKER_03Man, you talking. Um, the environment, that's that's the thing I probably gotta thank you for the most, man. Because yeah, so for me, you know, that's that's where the the transition actually happened that was when you flew me down to Atlanta, because like you said, that was the first time seeing in a real life time where people who look like you riding around in Lamborghinis, you know, all of the all of the Rolls Royces I had. So we upstairs. I can't remember exactly what it is of how I got there, but I remember you basically giving me the opportunity, and I'm like, yeah, shit, I wanna go. And um, you was like, well, fuck it. Your ticket, nigga, you you sure? Cause you know, I would, I would say I'm going and shit and be bluffing. Um I remember you like nigga, are you sure? And I'm like, yeah, I'm I'm going. And then you bought the ticket, and it was it was up right there. It was like, all right, shit, nigga, your ticket is booked. Nigga, we gone. And then um, that was the first time I ever flew first first class. Well, second time I flew first class, but that's the first time I really flew first class, like got the whole first class experience. So he flies me down there first class. We doing like the the what's the travel shit that we be going to when we stop in the airports and go up there and drink the uh champagne and shit. Oh, we went to the sky lounge. Yeah, so he shows me the listen, y'all. I'm still new to this. Nigga shows me the Sky Lounge and all of that. You know what I mean? So he gave me the a real luxury experience. And then we in the the the the the Ritz Carlton or something, like some some high exotic um, like he rolled out the whole rear carpet, right? But this is what fucked me up. All right, so I I I get into Dion's class. I remember Dion even telling me, like, yo, you know you're not even like you don't even really belong in here, but I'm gonna let you go off the strength of your brother. Um, shout out Dion, uh, Mr. Coop Word, man, because that that experience actually changed my life, and I thank you for that. Uh, because if I didn't see what I seen in that room, I wouldn't be sitting here right now.
SPEAKER_00For sure. My brother, shout out to my man, Mr. Phenomenal Power. Mr. Phenomenal Power for just letting letting it rock out and being cool when you know how we get down. You already know what time it is.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. So that experience when I got in there, that changed my life because I'm seeing, you know, I'm hearing people talking, talking heavy, $100,000 in a month, you know, and then I didn't know what my so y'all heard what I said. I knew my brother was was climbing without even knowing we never actually had the conversation. So now I'm starting to see how other people are treating them. Like this nigga really, this nigga really somebody. You feel me? I'm coming down, this nigga getting awards and shit. $50,000 in a month, $100,000 in a month, you know what I mean? These crazy awards and shit like that. And I'm like, hold up. Like, all right, I knew what I what I knew, but nah, this is confirmation. This shit is real. This nigga really like big dog. You know what I mean? He really somebody, he really moving. And um, I couldn't unsee it, yo. I I couldn't unsee it. And the opportunity came. Dion, he had um gave like a a a promo. Um, and his his his his mentorship was like 60% off. I jumped on it. The rest was history, you know, the rest was history. Um, but I thank you for even for even opening my eyes to that to that world. And hold on, let me hold on before I before I jump out. Hold on, because there's this one part of the experience that I got it, like this was the dopest shit ever, right? This is when I knew it was real. But we driving, we riding out everybody like Lamborghinis and shit like that. We back to back with it all that, right? Nigga, I think we was a knife. Now I don't want people to like like like bum rush knife after I tell y'all this. But I think we was a knife in Atlanta, and I remember days on the phone with like Bandman Kevil and um and Dion, and they like, yeah, we we a knife, da da da da. So we we pull up and you see like the regular people and knife that's upstairs, right? Like the regular citizens and all that. But then they they take us downstairs, and then there's this like this this secret room with like a back door that opens up, and then once the back door opens up, all you see is like just celebrities and bottles and millionaires and women and food, and that's when everything hit me right there. Like, yo, this is I want this.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03Like, I want this. You know what I mean? That was that was a crazy experience, and I was just like, damn, like this is what be happening. Like, you telling me we go to restaurants sometimes and we're sitting above, like, we don't even know it's a floor below us, and there's nothing but celebrities down there having their own experience, and we don't even know it.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03That's when it hit me, and I was like, Yeah, I got it. I got it, I gotta get in.
SPEAKER_00I'm yeah, like yeah, living a good life. Like, I remember you know, it it became normal, but at that first experience, like flying first class, and you sit down and they like, do you want to drink? Like, hold up, you about to give me a drink before I before I take off, you know what I mean? Like, oh, you gonna feed me on here, you gonna give me a hot towel on here, right? And my engineers over here in Boss Harry, I flew him first class too. They like, he they like, bro, they just gave me food. I'm like, bro, you'll you don't you don't understand, like this would come a first class, like, you know what I mean? And you know, having those private rooms and having your own service, like it's a it's a higher level to life, man. So I also want to dive into it because you got a good one on your arm. Because I want to shout out sis real quick because I remember during the pivot moment when you said, I'm not, I don't want to keep clocking in. Like, I want to start my own thing. I want that freedom. I want what Dayron has. Like, she told you to say, Dev, I never seen you fail at anything. But then on the other hand, your best friend at the gym was like, bro, you crazy. Keep your pension, like, keep all that stuff. Like, what made you say, yo, I gotta block everything out and just because it's it's gonna be people that don't see it. Like they gonna like it's it's people that don't understand that God is gonna have a calling for you and they not on the call. But they're gonna put, they they wanna talk for God and say, Well, no, no, bro. You talking from your point of view. You talking through your two eyes. I see something that you will never see. You didn't see my brother put me on a plane or first class, you didn't see him put me on yachts, mansions, put me on private, you didn't see what's going on. You didn't see my brother just closed on a $1.7 million house. Like, you don't see that he's driving like you don't see what's going on. What made you say, listen, bro? I can't, I gotta block y'all out because it's people out here that's listening, and they they I I I see it so often, they asking a generation that's cursed, can I go out here and break generational curses? So, what made you say, hey, wifey, I like what how does she give you that battery in your back to trump everything? Because I know you had a battle and said, should I stay, should I go?
SPEAKER_03You goddamn right. Um, I'm gonna be honest again, and I I just gotta continue to give you your flowers, man, because the catalyst for my pivot was 100% you. And I was just telling, speaking of Trish, my wife, I was just telling her this like last week, and I said, yo, when I'm having these talks to people and I'm telling them what I'm chasing, they can't fathom it. They they don't understand what the fuck you talking about when you're saying, listen, I'm chasing 100k in a month, nigga. That's that's what my goals is, nigga. They don't understand it. And I always tell, I'm just telling Trish this, and I said, yo, I know that they don't have what I have. I have a brother that did it. So my belief system, if listen, I'm gonna be honest and and and stuff Allah, forgive me. But I don't even think God could have convinced me. Like, I I had to see you do it. Like when you did it, it broke every fucking limit of belief, every barrier, every excuse, every it's not possible, any of that shit, it broke it. Because at the end of the day, this nigga came out the same coochie that you came out of. This nigga went through all of the same experiences that you've experienced. If he fucking figured it out, nigga, you can figure this shit out too. So at the end of the day, it wasn't her. I I'm I'm grateful for having a woman that believed in me. Um, but I always, it's 100% true. I always gotta credit you for that because I tell niggas that all the time. And like I was saying, I was telling her that I said, babe, it's hard for people to understand what I'm chasing. They don't have a day, they don't have a brother that accomplished it. The reason why I can take L's, my nigga, it ain't been smooth. You know, I'll call you frustrated as a bitch sometimes. For sure. Like, yo, it ain't been smooth. You know, but I wake up every day and I show up and I go because I got you as the example that it's possible. And all I need to know is that it's fucking possible. I'ma lock in and I'm gonna go get it. I just need to know it's possible.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you feel me?
SPEAKER_03And and that was it. So shout out my wife, Trish. I love you, baby, and and you are amazing. But at the end of the day, I gotta get the credit to my brother. And this this pivot is 100% based off of that Atlanta experience, everything that you showed me, and everything that I watch you do and break all of the limits, all of the odds, all of the excuses right there in front of my eyes that I no longer have an excuse. I gotta make it.
SPEAKER_00That's what I love to hear, man. Listen, y'all. Woohoo! I'm telling you, I'm bringing people on here that's living proof, man. And this ain't if this ain't living proof, I'm here to tell you this. Listen, I watched my brother call me, say, listen, I had my biggest day today, right? I watched my brother go from like 8,000 followers to 21,000 followers in like three days. I watched him, you know, we was going to a concert that night. We just hopped out the vehicle, shot a quick ad 1.7 million views. Like, how was that growth? I know that growth burned you up because at that point, you didn't even have all the systems to be able to capture, you know what I mean, and all squeeze all the lemon day out of that lemon, right? So, like, how did that feel? Like, talk about, like, talk about, you know, how did that feel of just growing so fast? Because you, I think you had like what, almost 100,000 followers.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so I'm at like 70, 71,000 right now. Um, it's crazy. Like you said, this this is the wild part because I'm hearing you say what you're saying, and it's like it sounds like it caught like wildfire. But for me, I feel like my journey ain't one of them fast journeys. Like, even as I listened to you say, you know, the business was out in front of you and you had to, you know, chase the systems and all of that shit. For me, it was the complete opposite because I always had you. So I gotta work through this one for a little minute, right? But what I mean by that is you did the thing already and you accomplished it. And I'm coming to you for the guidance. So you already giving, mind you, I'm on level zero, but you giving me level 10 guidance and advice. So you helped accelerate and and speed up shit later on, but in the beginning, it felt like it just took forever for me. So going back to that moment, like you said, that was that was very special because I remember the text, you were just like, look, we all need to get out. We we we haven't seen each other in a couple of months, we all need to get out. I'm I'm taking us out today, right? And all the guys, we link up, and I remember sitting in the back of the uh the the the the uh the the the black truck, and I'm like, yeah, when we get out, I'm gonna shoot this. I'm gonna I'm gonna recreate this. And we get out, we shoot it, don't really think of nothing of it. And next thing you know, yeah, like you said, that shit took me from 8,000 followers to 12,000 followers to 21,000 followers. And it was crazy. Like that that part did take over like like like wildfire overnight, but the success in business didn't. It took forever. So what I'm saying is, like people think like and boss heavy, shout out, boss heavy taught me this PayPals and stripes. Like, you can't get caught up in the likes. The likes don't convert to PayPals and stripes. So I'm thinking, I'm like, yo, I'm lit. Life about to change. I got nigga. I mean, at the time was it yeah, going on a million views, it's like two million now. Going on a million, I'm like, yo, I'm lit, I'm about to be out of here, like I'm about to turn this into some money. Man, that shit didn't convert into a dom because I didn't have my systems. Yep, I didn't have no back in nothing. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't even know what to do with the traffic. I didn't know where to send them at. I didn't have a CRM, I didn't have anything. So that level of frustration is different when you know that you had the life-changing moment, but you didn't have everything set up for it to change your life and you gotta eat that. Like that one, that one hurt. Um, that one hurt, but what it taught me was I feel like I came in on the opposite end of you where you kind of came in, it took fire. I came in because I was chasing you and what you were showing me, you helped me structure everything, but I got a team way before I was supposed to go get a fucking team. I wasn't even doing $3,500 a month yet, and I already had a motherfucking sales team, uh, you know what I mean, executive EA and all of that shit. So I kind of came from the opposite end where I feel like it took me longer to kind of get to a level where I'm doing 20k months now. Um, because I kind of built the team and everything first before even having the traffic and all of that. So I feel like my growing pains was different than most people.
SPEAKER_00It didn't, it didn't feel fast to me at all. Nah, for sure. I I wanted to point that out because people don't understand followers don't equal to dollars. At all. Right. And I'd be in certain rooms and it'd be people, and I just be sitting back and I be laughing. You know, I'm a calm, cool collective. Because it'd be people in there that be, oh, they they they they got fame and they and they and they got followers and all this stuff, but I'll be looking at them like, bro, if only if you knew. Yeah, if you don't know how to turn your followers into dollars, it really don't. You just out here, you just out here, you know what I mean, for likes and comments. Like, I'm not out here. Yep, right. Forget the likes and comments. Like, I'm not, I'm not. I want my I want my bank account to look crazy. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, we got in our program, we got NBA players, NFL players, and I'm looking at them and and and talking to them and mentoring them, and I'm just like, dang, like, we doing it bigger than y'all. Yeah, and that was our goal, like, yo, let's let's let's pick up a basketball. Let's, let's, let's, you know what I mean? Let's shoot, let's throw a football. Like, that's crazy. Yep. Talk about freedom, you, man. I I think you one of the realest out here, you know what I mean? Really showing because it's a lot of people online that's just regurgitating plays or what they heard. But I'm seeing you take people from 400 credit scores to 700. I seen you the other day get somebody funded $100,000. That way they can go ahead and do whatever they need to do, start their business, whatever. Like, talk about Freedom U. What was the name behind that and what do y'all do in that company?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, beautiful. So, Freedom U is is is a funding company that helps startup LLCs set up the LLC and get funded anywhere between $50,000 to $100,000 with 0% interest for the first 12 to 18 months. Um, and the thought process behind Freedom U was just that I wanted to build something that was a one-stop shop that brought freedom to people who look like us. Um there's a lot of misinformation in communities that we come up in, and we really don't really we get like little pieces of shit. It's like, but you never really get the whole the whole plan. Like it's like, all right, well, you're supposed to be doing stocks, so let me go get stocks. You supposed to be doing this, so let me go do this, right? It's like we was taught what we were supposed to do, but nobody really taught us how to do it or why, right? So for me, it was major to create something for people who look like us that can come in, fix their credit, build their LLCs, get funded $50,000 to $100,000 with 0% interest for your first year, so you can really go ahead and rock out. Set up your IUL, trust fund, whole life insurance, help you set up your stocks. Like we got a whole one-stop shop here. We got coaches that's gonna help you with your IULs, your trust funds, stuff like that. Coaches that's gonna help you with stock markets, stuff like that. Um, myself that's gonna help repair your credit and put you in position, help get you funding. Um, for me, it was just important to have people, have a space for people to go to to make a pivot. You know, I was a firefighter. I didn't know what I was gonna do. I see a lot of people spend 50, 60, 70 years in these jobs, retire, and then die because you've never developed another skill. So with Freedom You, I wanted to be able to provide a one-stop shop for people who look like us that wanted to be educated in stocks, wanted to be educated in what credit was, wanted to be educated in starting businesses, and want it helped because a lot of it is just about like what we don't know. And what you don't know will definitely hurt you. It will definitely cost you, for sure. It's costing a lot of us. Um, and I just wanted to be that bridge, man, and and bridge the gap to educate my people as well as get them to the finish line because you write what I see right now is a lot of people that's telling you how to do it, quote unquote, but nobody. We're really the only company out here that's doing it for you. A lot of people got courses, we got courses that's showing you how to do it, but I wanted to get people to the finish line.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. Yeah, and um you you know, you had your in-person event a couple months ago, and I was able to come and speak. And what makes me so proud about it is like, yo, you see so many people that are in the room and they joyful, like they really love you. Like, thank you. Really showing you big love because you doing out, you're doing big results. There's people out here that's on the internet with big followings. They'll never have an in-person event because they know they're not doing right. Right? Like, it makes me proud to just know, like, ethically, like you you out here making sure, like, nah, my people are good. Like, I want to make sure that y'all actually get the freedom, you know what I mean, that you need. Like, like free you. Exactly. Like, free you. Like, a lot of people, like, I want to have a trust fund and they hear the term and it sounds good, but they don't even know like really what it is. Like, you know what I mean? Like, how easy that it could be. Like, you can transfer your life insurance into your trust fund to tell your trust fund to go buy dividend stocks, and then now your kids are getting a paycheck every month instead of giving them that five million when you die. Exactly. Right? Like, we hear it all the time. Like, I really, really got trust fund babies because everything is set up the correct way. And you know what I mean? You your company, Freedom You, is helping people do that. Man, it's been absolutely like, what does living proof mean to you? Man, shit.
SPEAKER_03I mean, you are the living proof. I'm still chasing, you know. I'm I'm listening my brother went out here and did something amazing. You did something monumental. People don't get here where we come from, man. And the highest we've ever seen was the neighborhood drug dealer that might have made it to 50,000, maybe.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Maybe, maybe, yeah, and I might be generous. Yeah, I mean, this nigga done made millions. He's provided opportunities for hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of people. Now, I don't know how many people you got in the CBA, but y'all probably touch millions by now.
SPEAKER_00Sure, for sure.
SPEAKER_03Crazy. You see what I'm saying? So it just you driving it, and even though I'm no older brother, I always said this and I said it at your wedding. You know, I feel like yeah, I'm no older brother, but you you leading, you the big brother in this. You know what I mean? And and there's no, there's no um, no shame in saying that at all. You know what I mean? So at the end of the day, as long as you continue to press forward and break barriers and show us that it's possible, I'm gonna continue to walk through those doors with you. That's what's up, man.
SPEAKER_00Hey, Dev, before we get out of here, it was a pleasure. I don't know if y'all get, you know what I mean, in life, y'all get to really talk to your brother, but it's good to sit down in the new studio, you know what I'm saying, and chop it up with my brother. Man, I hope y'all really enjoyed this. A dev, tell them where they can find you because it's a lot of people out here that need your services. They need your, like, they know they're paying the price of life, like for not knowing. Like, they need to know how to do this thing, how to do it the right way, and somebody that they can absolutely trust. Because it's people out here that's taking people money and not doing or fulfilling what they said. So let them know how they can find you so they can tap in.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, definitely. So you guys can definitely find me at I Am Coach Dev on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram. Um, and you can find me at Coach Dev Freedom University on YouTube. Like I said, we host a free masterclass every Thursday for the public where you guys can come in, learn some gems, learn some free credit game, you know, to boost your credit score anywhere between 50 to 100 points live on the spot. We do this every Thursday for the public for free. Just tap in with us and um we're gonna help get you to the finish line, man. Free you at Freedom You.
SPEAKER_00Man, listen, y'all better go get some freedom. I'm here to tell you because life is short, man. Listen, you're watching the Living Proof podcast, but we bring people who are living proof. If Coach Dev ain't living proof, I don't know what to tell you. He done broke it down for y'all. I'm telling you, from this day forward, go out here and get some living, like you are living proof. I don't care where you came from, I don't care what circumstances that you are, you are living proof that you beat 100% of those battles. I see y'all in the next episode. Let's get it.